Tuesday, January 11, 2011
Who's to Blame? (Post #2)
On Saturday in Tucson Arizona twenty two year old Jared Loughner committed the heinous crime of mass murder killing six and wounding fourteen including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. This tragic event was immediately blamed on the vicious and vitriolic nature of political discourse in America today. Both sides of our unbiased news media found a way to put the cause of this horrible event on each other. Did the media incite violence in this terrible event? Or, could it actually have been a sad act committed by a disillusioned psychopath unaffected by politics right or left? What do you think? Has political discourse in this country gone too far? Is there any connection to freedom of speech here? Please be respectful of other bloggers opinions. (More here, please follow the links)
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i think that the murderer my have had a reason for killing state rep but i don not believe that he meant to start another battle between those representing the different sides of politics. that is just the outcome of the crime. because there is more than one side to politics, each side will try to make themselves look good and the opponent look bad.
ReplyDeleteI can't even believe they are trying to blame his cruel crime all politics. I believe that his massing murdering had nothing to do with politics and that he is just insane. I don't believe that he would commit his life that much to politics to start killing people over it.
ReplyDeleteThe crime was not directly an effect of the politics, yes that was the reason for the murder but it could have been just as easily caused by something else. POlitics plays a huge role in our society; however, every action cannot be blamed on what is going on around us. Sloan p.3
ReplyDeletehe said that he distrusted the government, but that should not justify what he did, he bought the weapon last november and then bought bullets at a nearby walmart, what he did was not based on politics i believe he has a mental disease. But he still continues to tell police that he had no motive. his next trial is on jan. 24th
ReplyDeleteTrista Dowdy
sloan per.5
i belive that part of this crime commted may have something to do with politics. Maby the murderer was extremly angry about somethings that were going on. I dont consider this a part of freedom of speech because the murder of six people and wounding of others will only get you in jail. I think the guy is crazy and maby this was just a crazy guy murdering for no political reason.
ReplyDeleteClarisa Carrillo
per.4 sloan
I don't think you're able to only blame one person in this event. Although the shooter does have psychological issues, his issues should have been addressed at age 22. He and his family are partly to blame for not seeming to do much of anything to help his condition. The political rally held in Arizona was in the rights to peacefully assemble and so I don't think there is much blame on politics in this issue.
ReplyDeleteDevin Smith, Mr. Bauer, P.1.
I believe that Republican nor Democrats are to blame for the tragedy. While politics in the US may be getting a little out of hand i believe the man was simply insane.
ReplyDeleteI believe that maybe the guy just wanted to get attention and he ded. I think he was just discouraged by the government unability to do anything productive and his life maybe was not what he wanted it to be. i also believe that he got his idea from Virginia tech, inccident.
ReplyDeleteMr.Bauer P4
Blaming the crime on politics would be an overstatement to what went on. I think it is not as deep as one political side taking advantage of a man who obviously has problems and and telling him to murder political opponents. In my opinion, he probably did not agree with the convention and wanted some kind of attention.
ReplyDeleteIt is ridiculous to say that this tragedy was caused by politics. i mean ya politics obviously had something to deal with it if he was going for Arizona Congresswoman but its not to blame. this guy obviously had some serious issues and didn't know how to handle them properly. He obviously didn't like this woman and what she stood for but he didn't know how to handle his anger. so he attacked her, and most likely just for the attention.
ReplyDeleteWell, it's very obvious that politics can make people want to kill other people for their beliefs. It could be any of the listed reasons, since no one will tell the truth when it comes to something like this, and everything else is left up to speculation. Maybe the gunman just liked dealing in lead. Who knows.
ReplyDeleteBrian S.
Per. 4 Sloan
Caleb Newman
ReplyDeleteWell, who can say for this event?
This guy was crazy. Every and all speculations go out the widow. Reality is skewed and logic takes a detour when you're crazy. I believe this guys was crazy, and politics was only the playing field on witch he acted upon. This tragedy is not really closely related to politics.
Politics is messy, and both sides insult and yell at the other side. Evey side calls the other side stupid, or ignorant.
As humans, we have a large range of people acting and thinking. There will always be humans that will murder.
I personally have received death threats.
The media is doing what it always does and is trying to milk a story for its worth. Google any news station or newspaper company right now and this is the only topic they have up in the category of politics. They ask stupid questions like "who's to blame for all this?" and use words like "The college drop out accused of shooting six people." There is no accusation or expensive trial needed here its simple, he's a murderer.
ReplyDeleteI don't think his actions were strictly based on politics. He was crazy; and I agree with Devin. By his age, SOMEONE should have done something...anything... about his mental issues. I don't think it's all that easy to do much speculation on this because politics are so blown out of proportion on their own. Add a crazy guy in there, and it's all downhill! He could actually really care about politics in our country, and because of his mental illness, he went WAY too far and started mass murdering people, instead of just disagreeing. Bottom line, he's crazy. People get so involved in politics that they're willing to kill others who have different beliefs. It's a bad combination...
ReplyDeleteThis guy obviously had something wrong with him to do something like this. People dont commit mass murder because they dont like the way the government is being run. Im sure if you look at this guys past record theres porbably signs that he's mentally ill.
ReplyDeletejacob beilby Sloan per 1
i believe politics are going way to far. people are getting way to aggressive about things. but they still shouldnt blame his murder on politics cause it takes a disillusioned psychopath to even merder someone in such a harsh way.
ReplyDeletekim hernandez
sloan
p.4
i think politics were a reason why he committed this crime. the media does blow a lot of things out of proportion, and they can cause people to get angry at the person they're talking about. i definately would not blame this whole thing on the media though. i do think they need to calm down on trying to get information and sending it world wide with a biased opinion. i think this incident does warn people about their freedom of speech because they need to be careful about what they say; otherwise, people may try to hurt you like loughner did.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, it was an act committed by a psychopath but may possibly be affected by politics and it is possible that there is a connection to freedom of speech. Political discourse in this country has increased through the past years and I feel are going too far. But events like the one involving Jared Loughner are bound to happen anytime and this event could possibly be blamed on the vicious and vitriolic nature of political discourse in America today.
ReplyDeleteChrissy Vue
Sloan
Period 3
John Skinner
ReplyDeleteMr. Sloan Per. 4
I think this incident was caused by a deranged psychopath simply going to the store with his gun and deciding to take his anger out on a political gathering...
I think that there could have been a million reasons why Loughner did this. Personally. i think the fact that he was mentally ill added to this, bu i also think that he could have been really upset by what the democrats were doing in arizona. To be honest, i would have to do more research on what actually happened to establish an opinion.
ReplyDeleteIn my point of view, i think that there is no political battle when the rep was shot along with other bistanders. If you really think about is why did he attack the people and just not shot the repsentitive multipul times? Think about it, he planned it yes but why? do we know why? There are alot of reasons but one thing i do not believe is that clash of the political party to get each other killed. The motive or urge to kill someone is they have to hear a lot of bad things about them.
ReplyDeleteRene Bonilla
Bauer 4th
Jared was simply a crazy @$$ guy who kiled his representative because he hated the government in any form. He was driven by no "heated rhetoric" as some people are saying. All such accusations are preposterous because this man is insane. If anything, people should blame his two favorite books, the communist manifesto and mein kampf, the former being penned by none other than Karl Marx and the latter being the classic work of the infamous Adolf Hitler.
ReplyDeleteThis guy klled caue hes crazy, not because of any political party in general, but because of his own psycho psychology and reasoning. As for free speech theres nthing to say. there is no way this is allowable under free speech, and i dont see why this should cause free speech to be limited. Thats just preposterous.
Maybe if another civilian had a gun this would have ended sooner and better... such as with the one who needed killing killed.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe the murders were just caused by politics. The man is obviously insane and there was most likely more to this story than the public knows.
ReplyDeleteGuadalupe Velasquez
Sloan, Period 1
Check this link out! i believe it resonates true. Unfortunatey i hate/suck at computers so i have no i dea how to imbed a link... or however that is said. so just copy and paste into browser.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/12/AR2011011204006.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Dallas cooper,
ReplyDeletemr.phenix period.1
I believe that this sudden tradegy should not be blamed on politics.I dont see why everybody is so quick to point fingers and try to blame who they think was responsible of the "big picture". This young man oviously had some issues wrong with him. I heard that one of his teachers were so scared to be in class with him that he would constantly have to turn around and check if this young man was going to pull a gun out. So my opinion is that he needed real one on one treatment to diagnose his problem so that way his parents could know to keep him away from society, but unfortunately its to late but things can no longer be fixed, just dealt with.
I think that this guy Jared Loughner committed the heinous crime of mass murder killing six and wounding fourteen including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords because he did not like something about this republican and about the other innocents that were killed and wounded, i think that he just did that because they were just there. There is no connection of freedom of speech.
ReplyDeleteI think it was both that caused this man to kill those people. He is probably insane and all it took was some political issue he didnt like to make him snap.
ReplyDeleteYeah politics can get crazy and people are often frustrated and offended by the views of others. This however is in no way an excuse for murder. Just because something upsets or angers me does not give me the right to go and kill innocent people.
ReplyDeleteIn reality, I think the kid was just mentally distraught and crazy. You can blame the political atmoshphere right now for what happened. The kid was just a psychopath and unfortunately, we get those in society.
ReplyDeletePolitics is not a big enough reason to kill someone in my eyes. Yes politics does have a big role in our society today and problems do arise with it, but i do not believe that it is a big enough problem to kill someone over. The guy is just CRAZY.
ReplyDeletei believe the crime was a result of not only the political discourse, but also his mental illness, combined with Arizona's lax gun laws. those three are a volatile mix.
ReplyDeleteYou can't blame politcs for this guy's stupidity and irrational thinking. Phenix told us today about how the guy's high school teacher felt as if he was going to pull a gun out any second and shoot someone in class soo that kind of says a lot about the vibe that this guy gives off. And from a psychological standpoint, something in Jared's brain snapped and the result was deadly. Some area of his brain (most likely the anger- management/violence part) became extremely aggressive and took control. Nevertheless, that is no excuse for murder.
ReplyDeletethings like this happen, and will continue to happen unless laws change, but then agqin the change will have to be too extreme, and nobody is ready for that yet, so lets let these maniacs out in the streets keeping massacres alive.
ReplyDeleteveronica iniguez
SLOAN p1
This man was a psychopath, I heard that he was kicked out of one his classes because the teacher was sfraid he might bring a gun to his class. There is something mentally wrong with him. I don't think this has to do with politics, but incident with being at the wrong place at the wrong time with a very derranged man.
ReplyDeleteits hard to believe that this guy would seriously center his life around politics and be so outraged that thats the reasoning behind his mass murdering. hes cleary insane in the membrane and needs help...unfortunately hes not the only psycho in this worlddd
ReplyDeleteIf this killing was truly instigated by extreme political opinions, why would Loughner kill others in addition to representative Giffords? It has already been clearly stated that Loughner was not all "there". Many mentally "there" Americans don't even care about politics. Why would the mentally unstable care any more? Obviously this story just took this turn because the media saw that they could get even more attention out of it if they were to emphasize on this certain irony that the representative happened to be one of the victims. I do not believe Loughner even knew that the representative was even one of his victims. Regardless I still believe political discourse possibly has gone too far but there's nothing really that we can do about it. People are entitled to his/her own opinion(s).
ReplyDelete--Sloan
AP Econ, period 3
I honestly think this should not be blamed all on politics. The suspect obviously is not in THE BEST mental state, things happen in life for a reason millions of people die every day and millions are born, but why do we tend to just focus on people that are "more important" ? It does not make sense... my condolences go out to the families that lost their loved ones and I think that the suspect should be tested and attended to for this crime.
ReplyDeleteMany politicians do their job everyday and its not a blood bath. He obviously has some problems but an extreme political view and influence from the media could have triggered his behavior no doubt.
ReplyDeletei think that this was a sad act committed by a disillusioned psychopath unaffected by politics because there is no way that this guy would do it just for politics he did it for another reason and its sad of what happend
ReplyDeleteP.3 Sloan
I think that this guy was just crazy, i don't think that politics was the reason for the shooting. I think that if he were to shoot for political reasons he would have just shot the congress woman and no one else. Sloan per 1
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ReplyDeleteI believe that the biased and violent media that litters the world today may have prompted and placed ideas inside this mans head. However, there had been no outright death threats from opposite sides of the media to each other and until we do then this tragic events blame should be placed only on the man who pulled the trigger. That being said it's obvious that a change in the way we do politics is needed immidiately.
ReplyDeleteThis was a really sad event that took place and the fault is due to one man who literally, went a little crazy. You can't pin point a problem like this, especially with the mental disorder of psychosis. It has been said that the man who committed this crime was mad at the politician for not answering one of his questions, he then acted out of anger and misunderstanding and onset a massacre in Arizona, rather than calmy and professionally dealing with his frustration. He is a very unstable individual; his college professors said they wouldn't turn their backs on him while in class and his peers have stated that he was "the kind of kid that would shoot up a school." All too much evidence of this man really just needing some serious help. Other people shouldn't have to suffer for his mental instability.
ReplyDeleteI don't see a connection between this incident and freedom of speech at all. Though he may have the right to bear arms, I don't see how this act is justified by any stretch of the laws the founding fathers outlined for us.
Bauer P.2
politics dose play a big part in todays society. i on the other hand dont belive that this masacar was soly influenced by politics... there are many causes leading up to an event of this magnitude...
ReplyDeleteAlondra Munoz
Sloan p5
Well i really dont know much about this murder, but the little that i do know makes me think that he was driven by anger, either because he didn't like how the goverment was running things or he was just crazy.
ReplyDeletemonica salazar
mr. sloan
p.4
It is very unfortunate that there is so much angry and negative language being thrown back and forth between the media these days. As everyone has pointed out, Loughner is insane and twisted. I don't believe that politics alone should hold the blame because he was already crazy. I would say that politics holds a small fraction of the blame. Like Alison said, all of the crazy things the media says may have put ideas into his head. However, at the end of the day, the blame is to be placed on Loughner, the man who pulled the trigger and killed and harmed many.
ReplyDeleteEnrique Angulo
ReplyDeleteBauer
Government
P.2
This tragedy is to be blamed as this individual being a psychopath for the simple fact that indeed would not be into pollitics to know what is going on lately. He simply had a gun since Arizona allows a citizen to do so and he happened to be at a safeway parking lot and moments later he was crazy enough to shoot all those people on that day.
This guy has serious problems,by killing those innocent people and hurting more.He went too far,he was that angry to hurt people.but i dont think this had something to do with politics no one would want to jail for something like this.
ReplyDeletetania hinojosa
sloan p5
I dont believe that the media had anything to do with the violence. This man really was crazy. I dont see how anyone could really think in their mind that it is okay for them to go out and hurt people like this. It is all his fault and all the blame should be put on him. He is the one who decided to commit this horrible crime.
ReplyDeletei can see the media playing a role in the reason why Loughner committed this crime. the media definately isnt the whole reason for his craziness though. with the media constantly putting biased information out into the world, it could cause some people to get angry. unfortunately, it caused Loughner to go over board. i think the media needs to calm down with their constant nagging for new information. people need to be careful of what they say now; otherwise, they could be in danger like Gifford was.
ReplyDeleteHow did this guy get to age 22 without his mental issues being addressed? And in the midst of the tragedy, of course the media from both sides are attacking one another. Crazy people do crazy things…it’s not politics fault and people need to not use this as another excuse to blame each other.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion is that this dude is retarded, his own family didn't even know he was capable of doing this and who knows why he did in the first place it could be for any reason. Don't think though this could be the last murder scene you seen.
ReplyDeleteHonestly this event could have happened for various reasons all stated above. I do believe that politics have gotten a bit out of hand though. So much negative energy put into just about every aspect it’s kind of disgusting. What’s sad is that I do believe that these politicians with such harmful words and gestures do have a good heart and good motives but because of a lack of understanding and tolerance of the differences that exist in this world they seem like or turn into these “evil” or “corrupt” images only seen on T.V. or in the newspaper. But back to the situation, the influence of harsh politics with the bickering back and forth could very well have influenced this man to do what he did. But we don’t know he could have just been crazy!
ReplyDeleteThe question that ur asking is a little hard to answer because it could have been polotics fault that the 22 year old commited this crime or it cold have been that he was just a very unstable person. I do think that polotics can agrivate people very much and make them do terrible things, but the new about his past makes me belive that Jared was severerl mentally ill.
ReplyDeleteSteffanie Eisenga
Per.5
Sloan
well in my opinion they could blame both with enough evidence. Of course Loughner is going to be indicted for his crime hands down, but if he was into politics then the media could have a hand in Loughner's act of violence.
ReplyDeleteI believe it was just a crazy guy that took his own opinions too far. Politics has gotten crazy but I don't think that events such as this one should be blamed on political actions. People need to learn to be rational in their own lives despite the media's influence. It's very low for the parties to blame each other in such a crisis because of one person. Bauer/Sloan
ReplyDeleteSO FAR I THINK THAT THE MURDERER IS A PYSCHOPATH. HIS CRIME SHOULD NOT BE BLAMED ON "AMERICAN POLITICS". HE PURPOSELY PLANNED THIS AND HAD PICTURES FROM THE REP. IN HIS HOUSE WHEN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SEARCHED HIS HOUSE. NOBODY THAT IS OKAY FROM THE HEAD WOULD DO THIS. THE KILLER SHOULD GET SENTENCED TO LIFE AND DONE PSYCHOLOGICAL RESEARCH. I THINK ITS SAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENED AND IT IS NOT AN ACT OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
ReplyDeleteLast time I checked, the political mudslinging and heightened tension in the country had nothing to do with shooting people. Everyone has their own opinions, and although many people do not respect the political opinions of others, they are not insane enough to get violent about it. This incident is totally the fault of the man who did it.
ReplyDeleteCaleb Boyd
Mr. Sloan
Per. 2
I think that this guy is very crazy and wanted some attention. As they have mentioned in the news his past is not so great, he got kicked out of school and some other things. I don't believe he did it because of the politics.
ReplyDeleteMelissa Quezada
Mr. Bauer
P.2
some people just aren't screwed on right... that guy is crazy. the media just wants to get paid for sensationalizing stories, for better or for worse. while politics has been the cause of almost every war in history, it wasn't what caused this tragedy.
ReplyDeleteI really don't think that this act has anything to do with politics. I think he was just was just crazy. I think the media is crazy for trying to blame politics. He had a rough life and he probably wanted attention, he just went about it the wrong way.
ReplyDeleteFran
Bauer
I think that he was completely insane and in the wrong to do something like this. i think the fact that he was mentally ill caused part or most of this, i also think that he could have been really upset by what the democrats were doing in arizona; however, regardless of what happens with the politics, the man murdered and ingured people. That makes him the bad guy. End of story :)
ReplyDeleteMaria Perez
ReplyDeleteSloan
Per:4
I believe that what Jared Loughner did to all those people, was not based on politics because no one has to take politics so personal to kill people like that. I think that its more than politics to do such a thing, to kill 6 people and leaving 14 others injured.
Gary Vasquez Per. 3 Mr. Bauer
ReplyDeleteWell it sounds as if it was premeditated like all of the Kennedy's assassinations. On the contrary he sounds as if he has a few lose bolts and screws in him. And he isn't mentally stable from the looks of it. One just doesn't wake up one morning and decide to shoot 20 people at random. He needs to be seen by a specialist (psychologist) this way he can be examined thorough enough to see if this guy can be help... In this case he has on freedom of speech. It is one thing ti voice one's opinions and another is to physically harm. BIG difference between the two.
i think that he didnt kill them over politics. i think the man was just crazy. that is just insane to kill someone of something like that, but if he did kill them for politics then he wrong in the head to put his life in danger like that.
ReplyDeleteerika oropeza
mr.sloan
p.4
I think the man who did it should be blamed completely. It could've been anything to set him off, but I don't think the media had a big part in his actions. Millions of people see the media all over about politics and don't start going on killing rampages all of a sudden, so I think all of the blame should be on the shooter.
ReplyDeleteamanda eckroth
ReplyDeleteper.1
sloan
I think it is the insane mans fault. its not anyones fault except the guy who killed and injured the people that he has injured.. the politics did hold the gun for the guy and tell the guy to shoot and kill people.. so its all the guy fault that shot and kill/injured people
What happened on Saturday in Tuscan Arizona was by no stretch of the imagination an accident. The man by the name of Jared Loughner was said to have an extended magazine and was ready to put another magazine in when he ,luckily, was stopped by two bystanders. With six dead and fourteen wounded including the one we have all no doubt heard about by the name of Gabreille Giffords, it doesn't make sense to blame it on the media on either side. It matters not how vicious of vitriolic the nature of the political discourse in America is today, that does not give any American the right to kill another. The quote unquote unbiased news stations that are pointing fingers at each other should be told to shut their mouths until the investigations are over, its too soon to point fingers with no physical evidence favoring one side of the other. The media did not incite any form of violence in this horrific event, it was just one man, Jared Loughner, that caused the violence in this event. I do not think that the political discourse in the country has gone too far, by the fullest extent of the law the people on the news can say they hate the other side (republicans or democrats) all they want as long as they are not threatening anyone, that is why we have freedom of speech and that's why we have the freedom to use it.
ReplyDeleteZachery Atkins
Mr. Bauer
Period 2
I believe this guy was just plan out insane. He was just trying to earn his moment in the spot light so he went crazy and took the lives of people who never did anything to him. I do not believe politics are responsible for the mans actions anyone who is that devoted to politics has something seriously wrong with them because everyone has different views. He is just crazy.
ReplyDeleteSpencer Pellandini
Sloan
P.1
Loughner is a mentally unstable man. This combined with other influences such as politics likely led to his horrific deed. He is dissatisfied with the government, but that is not an excuse to shoot a gun at innocent people with the intent of murdering a congresswoman.
ReplyDeleteThere is no reason that this crime should be blamed on politics. No matter how bad things get there is no reason for someone to kill another human being. Like really what is that going to solve? This was clearly an act of insanity in his part and he should suffer the consequences.
ReplyDeleteSloan pd 5
Victor Alvarez
People should be held responsible for their actions; it is not fair to blame the media for what happened. The media did not tell Loughner to kill a politician. As for the political discourse, i believe that it is part of living in a democracy; people have the right to critizice politicians and their actions.
ReplyDeleteOmar Hoyos
I believe that the murderer was really upset about something Giffords had said earlier, and it seems like he really didnt agree withh her ideas. But overall I think Giffords had all her freedom of speech rights to give her speech in front of the shopping ceneter.I believe that the guy really had issues and he was insane overall.
ReplyDeleteJaskiran Kaur
Mr. Bauer
Government
Period 2
It's the shooter's fault so what if there were influences you have to be crazy to do that. Rather than shoot someone if you believe the political process is broken start something make it better, improve it. Yeah I think our political process is broken but that is our own fault we live in a democracy we vote these people in, we can change this country if we want to.
ReplyDeleteJared Loughner is a piece of trash, motivated only by his own insanity. I’m absolutely infuriated that the liberal media instantaneously assumes that this psychopath is a conservative. That talk radio and Sarah Palin are to blame for this man’s insidious actions. What is wrong with these losers on the left? (Sloan P.3/Bauer P.4)
ReplyDeleteI think that it's nonsense that when something like this happens people start to blame others. The government is always the firts to be blamed, although it is evident that the guy was crazy and it is all his fault. I believe that the actions committed by this guy were unrelated to politics. He probably wanted to get attention, and he accomplished it.
ReplyDeleteIn this situation I'm not sure what is really to blame. Obviously, the shooter is at fault but you can't blame the media and you can't blame politics and you certainly cannot blame Sarah Palin. This man clearly was not in the right frame of mind to be interacting with anyone. Maybe Arizona's lax gun laws should partially be blamed. If this insane person was able to leagally purchase a firearm, who knows how many other mentally unstable people own guns. This heinous act was committed for whatever reason by someone probably in the middle of a psychotic break, anything could have influenced him.
ReplyDeletewhen someone kills, thts a crime and when someone commits mass murder! thats an even larger crime there should be no other exuse for that and certainly not all on politics. here we go again trying to blame someone else for our actions.
ReplyDeletei believe that the media had nothing to do with what jared did. Jared is old enuff to know what he did.He had anger towards the politics that he decided to kill and hurt people that is insane,he obviously has some anger issues.
ReplyDeletekarina ramos
sloan p.1
You can't really blame either party. Just like how the parties don't always agree with eachother, even people in the same party sometimes differ in opinion. Also it could be that the man hates all government and Gabrielle Giffords' public appearance was just the most easily accessible event for him to do something. The man is to blame because he resorted to killing to prove something, while he could have, like any other citizen at that gathering, expressed his opinion directly to the senator by using words not weapons.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion I believe that it actually had been a sad act committed by a disillusioned psychopath affected by politics because he obviously had to have an ultimate goal or motive to make such an action during a political ceremony. It was also said that he intended on doing what he did, planned it all it out and everything. It's unfortunate actually. What would drive a person to commit such a heinous act. Also, I learned that some of the victims were close relatives of such actresses like Sophia Bush, & Gwenyth Paltrow. I also believed that there is no connection what so ever to that of freedom of speech.
ReplyDeleteI do think the act was comitted by "a dillisiouned psychopath" i dont think it would have to do anything with politics, who would go THAT FAR? The crazy guy is to blame obviously something wrong is going on there in head head. If it were about politics dont you think he would've just directly gone to the Rep. And do something harmful to her?
ReplyDeleteAdilene vazquez
Sloan period 1
The media may play a small part in this but the guy was crazy and he was going to do this either way. For the most part the media was not to blame and that should not become a factor. Anything could have made him do it but regardless he is to blame completely.
ReplyDeleteThe united states is under much political tension thus causing many negative and positive reactions from the public. That is why to some degree it might be true that politics is affecting the way that people feel, but on the opposing side also politics has its ups and downs and thats why people in this society just tend to have spychological problems. Jared was wrong to do what he did and also i believe that the loss of jobs, houses, and other loses cause the people to be depressing leading them to commit crazy actions against their government.
ReplyDeleteI think this guy was affected by both.
ReplyDeleteHe may have already been crazy up there and all the tensions from the politicians triggered his actions. Just because he didn't approve of what was going on in politics wouldn't make him want to take people's lives.
Daniel Ruiz
Sloan Per. 5
I think the guy was just insane, maybe politics had nothing to do with his actions.
ReplyDeleteJasmine Singh
Mr. Bauer P.3
I think that the media plays a big role in how we view our politics andfrom there people choose sides. However, besides the lack of gun control, I do not think it is anyone's fault but the mentally ill person who did it.
ReplyDeleteThe media can be very influencing and persuasive when it comes to everyday affairs and opions. Im sure the media influenced this guy somewhat, but to comitt a crime like this is just his plain old fault!
ReplyDeleteYou can always blame someone for every negative action. Obviously the shooter is most to blame because he actually took action, but every one of us that has ever said anything negative has a hand in this matter. We all gave him the spport that he needed to pschologically justify his actions. The only difference between him and us is that he went through with it.
ReplyDeleteI think that politics is a big deal because people have different views on things. Sometimes it can get out of hand but it doesnt give people the right to kill someone over. Congress should be more protected and maybe that could have stopped this crime.
ReplyDeleteEJ Keller
ReplyDeleteSloan
Per.5
I think that the shooting was an outcome of his mental instability and I don't believe that he had targets in mind. It was random shooting; I don't believe it was based on political stance.
I believe that this man was going to do what he did regardless of the situation in politics, or how the media portrays the current political stance. This man was determined to hurt innocent people, and he succeeded. Perhaps the media added fuel to the already ignited flame in his mind, but it was not the ultimate cause of this tragedy.
ReplyDeleteStephanie Romero
Period 3
Bauer
i think it is ridiculous to actually blame politics for a crime that someone committed. yes i do think that he had strong opinions towards political issues and this may have influenced him to do something. but how can you blame other people for a crime that someone else thought through and committed. in my opinion he has some mental problems and made a bad choice as a result of them
ReplyDelete~~brooke fletcher
mr. bauer
period 2
This man is obviously mentaly ill, however I'm sure he had some kind of political motive.
ReplyDeleteYeah, this guy was pretty messed up in the head, apparently he was a creep at school and even his teachers were afraid of him. I dont think it has too much to do with politics, he had been obsessed with the Congresswoman long before she supported the health-care bill, and some figured it was only a matter of time before he did something like this.
ReplyDeleteas for political discourse gong to far, that happened a long time ago. the media has been a major player in this, especially the left-wing media because they cover television, and is always throwing out trash. however int his case, I believe the media or politics was not the cause at all.
i would say neither are responsible
ReplyDeletei think the people in his life who knew his unstable condition and did nothing about it are responsible
kaylanie lavender
period 1
I think he is responsible i mean it was not his fault. He did nothing wrong because he had a mental disability.
ReplyDeletethe media is somewhat to blame because of all the things they fill peoples heads with. Loughner is mostly to blame because he is the one that actually committed the crime.
ReplyDeleteRuben Rodriguez
mr. bauer per. 3
I don't think we should be so quick to point a finger at someone. Arizona does have lenient laws when it comes to guns, but either way that man was going to find a gun to do what he pleased. Since America has had two different political parties, the tensions between the two have always been around. There isn't much we can go about it. These incidents happen and will continue to happen as long as humans have a right to think for themselves.
ReplyDeleteI recently watched a play where a man was a security guard at a museum. At night he thought the statues were talking to him and turning him against another security guard that worked there. Long story short there was a murder scene. If you hadn't watched the whole play you would have been baffled as to why he would ever kill him but if you watched it from the beginning you would know he was hearing voices. I think many murder cases relate to this same thing. A lot of murderers have been diagnosed with schizophrenia and other mental diseases. I think this man is just ill.
ReplyDeleteGabriella Cello Mr. Sloan P.3
Loughner is being investigated for having a history of mental issues. I don't think that we could fully blame politics for this event, his crime was well planned and he had his own motives for doing what he did.
ReplyDeleteI think politics is a major controversy and that just because the congress woman was shot doesn't mean the situation revolved around politics. It is rumored the man was a schyzophrenic. The congresswoman may have been at the wrong place at the wrong time and that could be the cause of the attempt at assacination. Needless to say, the man will be charged with strict intent and nothing less.
ReplyDeleteI believe that this person was crazy and that what he had done was just out of hand he also had a history of strange actions so therefore i think what he just did did it because he was mentally disturbed i also think that he was trying to prove a point in a harsh kind of way but just went way too far.
ReplyDeletericardo villalpando
sloan pr5
the media is somewhat to blame because of all the things they fill peoples heads with. Loughner is mostly to blame because he is the one that actually committed the crime.
ReplyDeleteRuben Rodriguez
mr. bauer per. 3
The Giffords in earlier times must have said something that really upset him.Who knows what this was,but all we know is that it truly did hurt him. He went there on a mission , to seek out vengance on what ever this woman said before. Maybe he couldnt just be a man who like to use humans for target practice and found this as a great opportunity to practice.
ReplyDeleteJordan Elzie
Sloan per2
Politicians may be evil people, but they are people. murder is not the answer. It isnt the politics that are the problem, the guy was psychotic. He actually committed the crime so the blame lies with him.
ReplyDeleteI think that this manwho brutally murdered all of those people was just mentally ill. I do not think that this should have anything to do with freedom of speech. People should not take the blame ofr something that a mentally ill man committed because it is not fair to everyone else. The media does have a big part in this because it makes it seem as though "distressed America" caused this mental man to commit these crimes.
ReplyDeletei think that this man was just plain crazy. this might been because of politics but i highly dought it. i think he was just out to kill someone. it is not that hard to get a gun in Arizona too which makes it easier for this guy to kill.
ReplyDeletebauer, period 3
Certainly politics can frustrate and anger all of us at some time. Though I don't believe that politics personally got up and forced that man to commit those heinous deeds. In the end the final decision comes from the person. Billions of people are subjected to the media and its bias. He was just one of those who doesn't belong on this planet.
ReplyDeleteMarklin Nixon
Mr. Sloan
Period 1
I think that everyone has a reason for doing things and i bet this guy had one to. He could of maybe got offended for something gifford said or maybe he just didnt liked her as a republican. This guy was crazy thoughn for killing many innocent people and the reason for doing this would never be good enough.
ReplyDeleteJonathan Ramos
Mr. Bauer
Per.2
I dont think that anyone but the killer should be blamed for this. Murder is a serious crime and even though he was psychotic he should be punished for what he did and nobody else.
ReplyDeleteGerardo Salcido
Bauer/P.5
I dont think that anyone else should be blamed for this crime except for the killer himself. Murder is a serious crime and even though he was psychotic he shopuld be punished for what he did.
ReplyDeleteGerardo Salcido
Bauer P.5
I don't believe the media should be blamed for any individual's crimes. However, media could have some responsibility in the reason Loughner committed the crime. But one man's psychotic crime cannot be blamed on individuals who were not directly responsible. Far-right media groups have been spreading a feeling of hate throughout the country, which has in turn led to the rise in political discourse lately. A major reason of this is that hate speech is protected by the First Amendment, and it will remain that way until it is considered a direct threat to the safety of others.
ReplyDeleteConner Woods Bauer
In my opinion Loughner is a pyschopath, because he commited a CRAZY crime. Sure he must have had a reason to dislike the politics but it doesn't mean that the politics are to be quickly blamed for. It's his fault and nobody elses, he should have at least known that much. He could have handled his anger issues another way instead of taking important people's life away
ReplyDeleteKaren Villasenor
Mr. Bauer
Per: 2
i think that the media always censors the news in order to get more attention, misleading people and creating a certain image of event and people.
ReplyDeleteCristina Bernal
Mr.Bauer
P.3
In my opinion, it’s very obvious who the person to blame is....the shooter, Jared Loughner. He brought the gun to an event knowingly that he was going to kill or attempt to kill someone or many. Who brings a gun somewhere like that and accidently unplanned shoots MANY people? The only person to blame here is Jared Loughner. He's the guilty one.
ReplyDeletei think that this dude is just crazy and wants something to blame on his actions. For all he knows he might not even see the crime he comitted severe enough as it is.
ReplyDeleteWhile freedom of speech is allowed in this country, it doesn't mean that everyone willlike what everyone else has to say. There have been incidents like this before (where people take a gun to others because of opinions). How can we find a better way to get along in the political world without this happening? This man should have been to therapy a long time ago. We can't always agree with eachother,but we should find a way to solve problems without this many people being murdered.
ReplyDeleteNatalie Oelsner
Phenix p.1
The media definetely shouldnt be blamed for one persons doing..clearly this guy was crazy and had problems of his own..its most likely thought too hard about; and most likely not meant to be directly toward the media and politics in general.
ReplyDeleteDanielle Barros
Sloan p.4
I think that this guy is very crazy and he just wanted some attention. As they have mentioned in the news his past is not so great, he got kicked out of school and some other things that he did. I don't believe he did it because of the politics, he just did it because he is crazy.
ReplyDeleteStephanie A
Mr. Sloan
Per.4
I dont believe that the media had anything to do with the violence. I don't see how anyone could really think in their head, that it is okay for them to go out and hurt people like this. I think its all his fault and all the blame should be put to him.
ReplyDeleteSantiago Naranjo Diaz
P.1
Mr.Sloan