Tuesday, December 7, 2010

Wanna Fly Now? (Post 28)

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has a new policy regarding searches at US airports. Pat-downs and full body scans are now part of the routine.




Interest groups such as the ACLU are protesting the pat-down procedures.

Are you willing to allow extra security at the expense of your liberties?

Please post by the end of the week.

115 comments:

  1. YES. get searched and be uncomfortable for a brief amount of time, or die, forever. what a hard decision.

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  2. Brian Magina, Sloan P.3December 7, 2010 at 10:08 PM

    Yes the pat down is violating to "privacy", but I believe a few more seconds to be extra cautious is better than taking the chance to put lives at risk.

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  3. While uncomfortable, I think the patdowns will be worth it. As long as everyone in the process behaves professionally, a few seconds' discomfort will be well worth the safety.

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  4. These pat downs and scans are crossing the line. Next thing you know, security guards who get a little "too interested" will be creating huge scandals and controversy. What happens if you're a security guard and you get to pat down Beyonce? Our security is already top-notch without these invasive procedures.
    Caleb Boyd
    Sloan
    Per. 2

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  5. yeah to stop a future exploding airplane from a teriorist attack. Yeah its uncalled for but do you really wanna die on a plane with children on? plus it looks breif and simple, just let the dude touch you and search you and move on! really its not that big of a deal.

    -RENE BONILLA
    BAUER 4TG

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  6. Christina Luna
    p.1

    Honestly, a pat down is a very uncomfortable invasion of privacy. But all that to the side I'd rather be uncomfortable for a quick minute and be safer than risk having terrorists on board with weapons.

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  7. Haley Collins (Mr. Sloan Period One)December 8, 2010 at 2:42 PM

    Alright woah woah woah, that's all I have to say! I mean honestly yeah we need to keep our citizens safe while flying, but these pat downs are a little too "touchy". We all have the right to our privacy, and these airport pat downs are soon going to escalate to cavity searches. Honestly I think as a citizen they need to come up with something that doesn't involve feeling up the flyer.

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  8. Maria Schmidt, Bauer, Per 5December 8, 2010 at 3:21 PM

    This almost makes me not want to fly. I think it's an invasion of privacy and can make people feel very uncomfortable. I agree with Caleb when he said some security guards may take advantage of the situation. Not all people can be trusted. With that being said though, I guess if a pat down and full body scan will keep us safer, then it has to be done. Our safety is a priority and if they see it necessary to do so, then so be it.

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  9. It is a bit too much to pat down people especially in uncomfortable areas but i think it's fine as long as security guards check and pat down their own gender so they don't become abusive in some cases. However this is a necessary measure to keep air travel safe and to help save lives.

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  10. Although it seems like an invasion of privacy and inappropriate circumstances, it creates a safe environment for people who are traveling by air.

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  11. Josh Agans, Bauer P.5December 8, 2010 at 3:49 PM

    i think they few extra seconds of a pat down is fine. id rather be patted down and feel uncomfortable for a few seconds than have people's lives at risk. they arent that big of a deal. i think our safety is more important than not getting checked as long.

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  12. Kyle Maples - Bauer Period 1December 8, 2010 at 3:58 PM

    I myself will be flying in less than one week on a flight across the atlantic ocean for more than 10 hours. I would like to know that I will be safe and no harm will come to myself on the flight. I think that these new TSA screenings are necessary and people just need to get over it. Even if they are basically raping people as we travel via airplanes.

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  13. I understand why security would go to more drastic "pat downs" especially after 9/11 however I do think people are being touched in inappropriate places. I would NOT feel comfortable with people touching me like that, especially full grown adults. It’s a violated to your personal bubble.

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  15. I watched another report on this topic, I'd like to point out that in these pat-downs TSA officials are allowed to touch the genital area and anus in these pat-downs. I'd also like to point out that, under any other circumstances, this would be considered molestation.

    This is getting ridiculous, and as the man said in the video, things can still be snuck on. And if we don't draw the line, how far will this go? My mom works at a prison and tells me about the places inmates hide weapons--and they don't hide them where you'd find in a search like this. So what's going to be next? Full cavity searches? When does protection start to infringe upon our rights?

    I personally oppose these measures. My body is personal, and I don't feel the government has any right to violate my privacy in this way.

    Sasha Schotzko-Harris
    Bauer 1

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  16. My opinion is that if you gotta do it under state law then I don't think you have a choice in the matter.

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  17. The ACLU have a right to be protesting the pat-down procedures.In the video its shows how the people are uncomfortable with that.i would be too.Even tho its for our safety,i think there should be other things we can do to check for weapons or explosives.

    Tania Hinojosa
    SLOAN P5

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  18. In the video, the man reported that allowing these pat-downs would not catch everything and some things may still be snuck onto the airplanes. Nothing is going to make flying 100% secure and safe. I do not think they should allow the "new" pat-downs or the visual scanning, it is a violation of privacy.

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  19. I understand maintaining security for airplane flights, however at a certain point a line can be crossed. If body searches and x-rays are designed in a way that makes EVERYONE boarding a plane uncomfortable, then adjustments should be made. It seems that these new ways for checking security are just plain intrusive. The man in the video even said that the new pat downs and/or x-rays won't even be able to find everything so what is the point of making passengers feel violated?

    Devin Smith, Mr. Bauer, P.1.

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  20. Okay so the government can basically molest you now? Like the man said, even with these pat-downs they wouldn't have been able to catch the underwear bomber. If you still cannot catch every single thing, why go to drastic measures? When i fly to texas, I would feel extremely uncomforable of being patted down this way, to the point where TSA can cup my breats. This is an extreme violation of privacy, and it is going to extremes. Yes, I want to be safe, but i don't want to be half molested in order to do so. Techonology is so advanced now, why can't they figure out another way to do this. Well that's just my opinion.

    Stephanie Romero
    Period 3
    Bauer
    Economics

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  21. Margarita Flores per.5 Mr.BauerDecember 8, 2010 at 8:05 PM

    I totally understand why they are getting very strict and pass the line with pat-downs . All there trying to do is try to make America safer by making sure no one has any harmful weapons they are just trying to prevent a disaster like 911 to happen. But then i agree that they should not pat-down people like that . Epically even toughing a woman's breast it is very unacceptable and very uncomfortable for the women all so what it they take advantage of them and grave the breast in a worst unacceptable way. that is sexual harassment. I know I wouldn't be to pat-down like that.

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  22. I understand that the body pat downs result in safer flights and preventing disasters. I belive that the body pat downs are a good idea only if you go through the metal detector first and if they still detect sumthing on them they they have the pat down check done. It may feel okward or uncomfortable for people but it results in safer flights.

    Clarisa Carrilo
    Per.4
    Sloan Government

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  23. i think the pat down search is going to far. yes i understand that its for our safety but i really think they should come up with a different way to search people. the scanner is not bad because they are not getting "touchy" so that should be okay.
    erika oropeza
    mr. sloan
    p.4

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  24. So i'm pretty sure i wouldn't be flying anytime soon because i wouldn't want an "over the line" pat down by some stranger. Even if its for safety purposes only i wouldn't go through that just to fly. It would be fine if it was just the x-ray machine thing but the crazy pat down?? No thank you.
    Adilene Vazquez
    Sloan Period onee

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  25. Steven Reichmuth, Bauer, period 2December 8, 2010 at 9:03 PM

    O'well more airport security, what else is new. I would take a full body scan anyday over some dude "touching my junk." But don't worry not everyone has to face these searches, if the TSA was to search a suspicious individual of middle eastern decent and find nothing it would be considered racial profiling and nobody wants to deal with one of those....far too much paperwork.

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  26. Jacob farrar
    bauer 4th

    Well, i belive i would add this extra security inorder for our safty. Even though their has never been an issue on this side of the Airport it could be becuse of the hyped up security. There is alwase more then one way to get where your going, so we'er not subcluded to just this.
    LOL at stevens commit

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  27. Emily Geiszler, Bauer, Period 4December 8, 2010 at 10:41 PM

    I wouldn't mind a little more security even if it means taking away some of my liberties. The TSA people are just trying to keep everyone safe. Criminals are getting smarter and smarter, or stupider and stupider. They are hiding things inside their bodies that wouldn't be found without the scanners. So you have to wait an extra 20 minutes going through airport security. I know personally, I would love the extra assurance of knowing no one is going to try and kill me over the Atlantic Ocean the day after graduation. The extra security is not a big deal. I've been on planes all my life and I haven't felt that any new security measures were an inconvenience to me. It makes a lot of people feel safer.

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  28. They shouldn't go as far as the whole pat down. They should instead better invest on technology to improve security instead of coming to such hard forms of security. It is by far violating people by feeling up the women so much as well as the men and I'm sure that they will have several lawsuits regarding sexual harassment soon enough.

    Michael Robles
    Mr. Bauer Period 3

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  29. This new procedure is highly perverse, and outrageous abuse of TSA's authority. For instance, its like saying If someone were to stop a random stranger on the street and brush their body with their hands, That person would be guilty of committing sexual assault. Basically, this whole process is an invasion of one's privacy, pertaining to ones self.

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  30. A pat down is something i'd rather do than die. A few more seconds of something isn't that bad and it is important to make sure that peoples lifes are safe.
    Tori Milligan
    Sloan per.3

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  31. Danielle Smith, Sloan P1December 9, 2010 at 3:34 PM

    Deal with the pat downs. I get that people are uncomfortable with it or whatever, but it's probably a lot more comfortable than dying in a plane. TSA should create as safe of an environment as it can, and clearly what they were doing wasn't cutting it. They're just doing their jobs. You're trying to fly, they're trying to get their paycheck...let them pat you down and move on. :)

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  32. I don't think that airport security should be allowed to do intense pat downs. It would be extremely uncomfortable and it doesn't even help. Like the guy said on the video people can still sneak things on the plane. Sloan per 1

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  33. Cierra Gonsalves, Mr.Bauer, Period 2December 9, 2010 at 4:05 PM

    Its reasonable enough to assume that more security is needed when it comes to airports, however, the new TSA pat-downs and body scans may be too much. I highly doubt that with the hustle and bustle of crowded airports the last thing people want to do is get fondled or have a revealing picture of themselves on record. These pat-downs are misleading and uncomfortable. I can't imagine what it would be like for a parent to watch his/her child go through the process, let alone anyone else. Its understandable that the TSA members are doing their job and it must be uncomfortable for them as well. In all honesty, there must be another way to prevent dangers from affecting the lives of individuals and with their intelligence, it should be back to the drawing board for airport safety administrators.

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  34. These new patdowns shouldn't be allowed because it is too invasive and can make one feel very uncomfortable. Seeing the video, if these pat downs aren't going to stop the criminals from getting through, then the only people who are punished are the innocent ones. I still think that there should have search and pat downs, but there should be a clear line of how far this can go so that no person gets taken advantage of.

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  35. I believe that safety is a key factor in flying, and they need to make sure that everybody is safe to board the plane, but only to an extent. Getting through security before took an enormous amount of time, and by adding a pat-down it will only consume more time. I believe that is is stupid, to add a pat-down, what are they going to find that a metal detector cannot?

    Trista Dowdy
    Sloan per.5

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  36. I think the pat down is huge invasion of privacy and should'nt be done. That is just really uncomfortable, but I guess if its for saefty reasons then its okay but there should be a certain limit to it.
    Jasmine Singh
    Mr.Bauer
    Period 3

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  37. I do believe that the TSA security at airports is far too much now. Stepping up security isn't going to stop terrorism, especially since there are car bombs, and many other ways for terrorists to carry out terrorist acts. Just focusing on the planes does nothing. Most importantly, however, we are losing major rights to privacy by being searched under the current security protocol. I'd rather die a free man than live a slave.

    Brian S.
    Per. 4 Sloan

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  38. I think it's too much. Some people are not willing to show themselves naked when other things can be done. I do not agree that this an advancement to stop terrorism, but a step in total government control. I don't mean that in a hippy-like way.

    Daniel Ruiz
    Sloan Per. 5

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  39. Pat downs are a violation of our rights, however, I feel that they are necessary due to the possible dangers we now face when flying in an airplane.

    Guadalupe Velasquez
    Sloan, Period 1

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  40. I don't think that both the scan and pat down are necessary. Only one is needed. If there is powder in a guy's underwear again, it will never be found unless he is undressed, but that would be way over the top. I think that if someone is going to bomb an airplane, they're always going to find a way to get in unnoticed somehow. There's no reason to violate people if it won't always help stop crime.

    Melody Morphis
    Mr. Sloan
    per. 1

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  41. Maria Perez
    Sloan Per.4
    I believe that a pat down is an invasion in privacy but if it is necessary to do a little pat down and take a few more minutes to check for safty it will be worth it when lives are saved. Its better to be safe then sorry, in a situation where many people may be in danger of dieing for what others bring with them on an airplane.

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  42. Although the pat-downs may be very uncomfortable and also invade peoples privacy i feel that they will make us feel better and if its used for safety reasons then its okay.

    Melissa Quezada
    Mr. Bauer
    P.2

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  43. I'd like to point out that very few people are ever required to be patted down. According to the TSA, only about 1/3 people who go through the new scanner have to be patted down. That's not 1/3 fliers. Only about 35% of people go through the new scanners, which means that only about 12-14% of people will even be patted down. When I flew home from Cleveland a couple of weeks ago, I wasn't even asked to go through the new scanner, much less be patted down. That being said, I do know that I would be uncomfortable being patted down. However, what about that poor TSA agent? They have to pat people down, all while being screamed at by irate, childish passengers who view them as perverts. While I may not agree with such a stringent security protocal, I understand why it is in effect. What really bothers me is the focus on planes, as a previous poster stated. There is NO measure of security beyond a ticket on any BART, NY Subway stations, AMTRAK, Greyhound, lightrail, bus, or any other type of public transportation. Those modes of transportation could be just as devastated by a terrorist attack, and an attack could destroy a large part of the cities they run in. I honestly am more concerned with an attack on the BART than I am on a plane. The security measures on the planes may help, but they can't keep this country much safer, especially because so few people are even screened. Why create the havoc?

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  44. I'm willing to give-up some of my liberties because it will prevent disaters and terrorist attacks. The security is there for the public good and a moment of discomfot is fine compared to dying.

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  45. If you make the choice to take an airplane to reach your destination you should be made to follow airport regulations, pat downs, etc. If you aren't okay with that, take your car or a bus. These searches are put in for safety purposes not just for a person to feel you up.

    Marklin Nixon
    Mr. Sloan Government Per 1

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  46. Jordin Herrera-Bauer Per2December 9, 2010 at 6:18 PM

    When it comes to airport security their isn't much choice in how it can be conducted by individual airports. Because it is a federaly regulated thing it has to be eefficient and able to be applied across the board. The full body scanner thats going into use is one of those things thats efficient. If pixulated blue pictures of your body are and invasion of privacy than what is a full body patdown? I think people need to stop being so embarased adults know guys and girls have their parts and just go through the scanner.

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  47. no. pat downs are too intrusive. body scanners are bad, but not as bad.
    that segment seemed really biased btw.

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  48. Wow, that can be uncomfortable. I mean, they're touching peoples private areas, and at any other point, like Sasha said, that would be considered molestation. I remember going to the airport when I was like 14, and I found THOSE pat-downs REALLY uncomfortable. I can understand why the TSA would feel the need to use these full-body screens and such, because of that guy who stuck explosive powder in his under-roos and tried to bomb the plane. Personally, it doesnt make me want to go to the airport.

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  49. I believe the pat down is complete unneccassary. they are violating people's privacy and making it very uncomfortable for both. i would rather go through the body scan even though that is extremely violating as well.

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  50. If we take away to many liberties in the name of protection, we don't deserve the liberties. Personally I don't need some random person patting down my junk. I understand the risk in todays society but there are better methods then this. I understand the frustation but would not give up my liverties for this little extra protection when we already have so many precautions in place.

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  51. Pat downs are a big invation of privacy. But if its necessary for the safty of the people that are traviling then they should be able to do it.
    monica salazar
    mr. sloan

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  52. hese nwe pat downs are a violation of privacy and as the man in the vedio said not even the new pat downs can catch everithing... so fling will never be 100% secure therfor it is evident that they are going too far with the pat downs and full body scan.
    Alondra Munoz
    Sloan p.5

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  53. The TSA has every right to pat down or check people to the fullest extent of their capacity. If my safety is at stake, I would be willing to do just about anything to ensure my safety or my fellow passenger's safety. Some people feel like they're being abused by the TSA, but it's for the safety of the country and therefore acceptable.

    Sloan p.2

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  54. I would be willing to fly at the expense of my civil liberties. Even though the body scans and pat downs may be unpleasant, they are necessary to increase the national security.
    Conner Woods Bauer

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  55. kayla rodriguez sloan5December 9, 2010 at 8:34 PM

    even though its extremely uncomfortable, I think the patdowns will be well worth it. as long as people follow orders, a little extra time wont hurt anybody...literally

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  56. I think i can put up with the patdowns to make sure that nobody brings any bombs or weapons on the plane

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  57. I think that the main inconvinience is that this will take more time to get through security. While uncomfortable, it is worth the benefit of tighter security.

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  58. i believe it is reasonable to do a scan or pat down when flying. i mean, its for our own safety right? its nothing personel when they have you get scanned, they just want it to be safe.
    kimberlie hernandez
    sloan p.4

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  59. I am going to stick by favorite quote, by the great Benjamin Franklin and say "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." I think that this applies perfectly to this case. I also think that if we are willing to do this then it means that the terrorists have already won because their goal is to frighten us, and if we are willing to give up our liberty then they obviously have scared us.
    Bauer per. 1
    Sloan per. 3

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  60. I don't like the idea of pat downs becoming a part of the regular flying procedure in that it desensitizes the public to government censorship. No matter what stringent security measures are in place, there will still be bad people who will find repulsively clever ways to do bad things. Many people go about creating laws and government policies with the idea that with all of the right laws and security measures in effect, nations and even the world has the potential of one day being perfect and entirely safe. This is a false hope. So, instead of giving up important individual rights and freedoms with the reasoning that it will make our world a nicer, safer place, we need to protect our privacy, understanding that tragedies will sometimes occur and there is only so much that we can do to stop that.

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  61. If it helps to save lives, then I guess I would be willing to allow extra securities. My fear is that airports are taking things too far by doing this to people. This is wrong, but it is done with good intent.

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  62. Janeiry Balderas, Mr. Sloan, Period 4December 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM

    Well like you(Sloan) said in class would i rather someone see me with that scan of my body or have someone touch me. definitely i rather have them just see, i think getting patted down my be a little to much. But with all the things that are going on in this time, security has to be high and realistically it is better to go with the flow than against it and cause problems. It might violate some privacy but its worth it(maybe).

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  63. Although many may think it is unnecessary for a cop or law enforcment to pat them down, i believe it is 100% necessary. Not only is the officers life on the line it is his/hers job to protect and serve the public. It is only to protect our country and its people. If it was not preformed and something happened the people would wonder why they where not searched in the first place
    Spencer Pellandini
    Sloan
    P.1

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  64. I dislike the extensive pat downs, but I do however believe it is necessary because anything can go wrong. By taking all necessary precautions such as these full body scans and these pat downs, the airport and the government are simply covering their own tail if something horrible happens such as a repeat of September 11.

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  65. I think its good because it protects our lives and have to take a couple of seconds to get searched cant hurt any if its for the safety of your life yeah its worth it but i also think it could be going way too far but its the law so theres nothing we really can do about it

    richard manzo
    pr5 sloan

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  66. Sergio Maldonado, Sloan p.3/ Bauer p.4December 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM

    Scanning should be enough for passengers, however they should only be patted down if the scan reveals a possible weapon or bomb and the patdowns should not be routine. For safety purposes, normal pat-downs should be enough. People want their privacy, but they have to decide between a body scan or a body patdown, as both invade privacy. It should be up to the passenger which method they decide to take.

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  67. This is very inappropriate and a little to much. People should fly at there own risk and those who choose to fly should not be felt up and violated. Some may say its necessary but it seems that if you really want to sneak things in you will find away around the system.

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  68. I feel that this is a good thing because it makes flying safer. Yeah it may take longer, and it is a bit of a hassle but it will make it safe. We need safe airports and that is final.

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  69. Chelsea Ray, Sloan p.1December 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM

    Yes, the new pat downs are an invasion of privacy but it is only for the safety of everyone one on the plane. Id much rather be uncomfortable for a few minutes then die. The TSA is only doing what they think is best.

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  70. I believe the pat downs are a violation of privacy, I personally would not be willing to participate in a pat down. I think that a full body pat down like the way they show in the video is a little too much. As a female, I would feel violated and uncomfortable and, especially if the search is done by a male.

    Sloan P.2

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  71. I think that its a goo idea it may be a little uncomfortable but in order to stay alive i think its worth it this could work from future attacks because you really never no what crazy thin could happen

    ricardo villalpando
    p5 sloan

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  72. while the pat down is inconvenient and time consuming, it is worth it because it can save lives in the long run. I'm willing to give up my right in that situation because they are doing it for our protection.

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  73. Ok these pat-downs look like they are definitely crossing a line. I wouldn't mind the body scan so much, but like the guy said in the video this probably still won't stop terrorists like the "Underwear Bomber". I thought that we were doing pretty well preventing terrorist attacks, or at least any potentially sucessful ones, but I guess I was very wrong if the airport thinks they have to go this far. Bauer/Sloan

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  74. I understand that airports want to be safe and what not. But i believe that the pat downs is just a little too much and violates the securities power.

    -Ivan Cardenas
    Mr. Sloan Per. 3

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  75. in my opinion i dont like those new xray thingys and the pat downs. both of these violates our privacy but since its for the safety of all its all good. ")

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  76. the patting down of every single person seems a tad unnecessary simply because it would take so much time. they should do that body scan thing and call it good, its not an invasion of privacy, they are trying to keep us safe. if it is necessary that someone needs to be patted down i say go for it!
    Hayley Swearingen
    Sloan Per. 4

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  77. I think it's ridiculous for someone to be so horridly scared of someone touching them that they'd rather die instead. I believe the added security that will come from this far more outweighs the disadvantages of feeling awkward for a few seconds.

    --Sloan
    AP Econ, Period 3

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  78. I believe it should be allowed even though it is a violation of privacy because it is for our own protection. I believe that people should b willing to do this procedure to aviod attacks like a repeat of 9/11. If this could potentially save millions of lives then it should be allowed.

    Zach Mietz

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  79. The federal government is absolutely insane. Where is the logic behind these extremely intrusive pat-downs? Profile the passengers and run background checks on them. There's no need for these security measures.(Sloan P.3/Bauer P.4)

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  80. Seriously people complain to much about the new security, but since the "violating" serches have taken place has th been any big securiy threats on airplanes? nope. so a few seconds of discomfort is better than being blown up.

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  81. I believe that this should be allowed. Sure it is a violation of privacy but in the end, it could save millions of time. The searches only last for a small amount of time anyways, which is probably only a few seconds, so I think the searches aren't really that bad.
    -Kevin Rodgers, Sloan Period 2

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  82. Yes i would still fly atleast i know i wouldn'die we have been sacreficing liberties. At the air port fir years and this is commonon so for me it's really a safty forflyong im dowb

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  83. To be honest I think it is a violation of privacy but it is worth it. These searches can save many lives. People just need o stop trippin,If they don't have anything to hide then why do the care if the get searched. This should definatley be required in airports.

    Mr Sloan
    Victor Alvarez
    Pd5

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  84. I would most definately risk a little bit of privacy to be safe. Safety is the most important thing and it doesn't make sense for people to get to mad about being a little bit embarrassed. I would much rather be a little embarrassed for a brief moment and know that I am safe.
    Sloan
    Period 5

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  85. I totally understand why they want to use the idea of a pat down but i think that is so umcomfortable. And even if you did do a pat down still your not 100% sure that everything is safe there are other ways people can bring unsafe things on the plane. Basically this is violating our privacy.

    Jaskiran Kaur
    Mr. Bauer
    Economics
    Period 2

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  86. Alexis Watson Bauer 3December 10, 2010 at 5:37 PM

    I can understand the reasons behind the patdowns, but I still feel a little violated. You never know where someone has been or touched and then they touch all over your body. I hope they at least have gender specific lines, but then that would be offensive to have gay TSA agents just as it would to have a guy check a girl. Also TSA "agents" are one of the only jobs that accepts sex offenders, so thats like being an enabler or supplier of "goods". I would much rather have them come up with a new idea because if it was such a big deal to do it this way why wasn't it implimented in December 2009 when the last real attack was almost successful?

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  87. Sarah Richter, Bauer, Period 5December 11, 2010 at 12:27 AM

    I understand why airports want to do patdowns now. i do believe it is invading the privacy of citizens but its supposed to keep us safer so why not try? Once this gets into a big deal they'll stop using it but it should be fine till someone complains about being sexually harased.

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  88. i think that these are a good thing for our airports. yeah its a little violating but would u rather have people blowing up airplanes? i think the searches are a better thing. it will bring down people planning to do crazy stuff. i would not mind a QUICK search because i know i got nothing to hide.
    blake harrison
    period 3
    bauer

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  89. Luis Anguiano
    Mr. Bauer
    Period 2

    They should do the pat down the reason why is that you are violating that person by the scanner that is just wrong

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  90. Hannah Engebretsen/Bauer P2December 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM

    I think there new ways are just a little to much. And some people are uncomfortable with that. The scanner is deffinetly to personal for everyone to see.

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  91. i dont think they should let airports do this. its really too much, some people might feel it was a bit too touchy and it is, a violation of privacy

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  92. Emily Staab Bauer Per2 :)December 11, 2010 at 7:19 PM

    When I first heard about the body scan, i thought it was a bit over the top. But then I heard about the pat downs and I was speechless. It is a COMPLETE violation of privacy. Yes, I want to feel safe, but find some other way to keep us safe. This has probably been posted a lot, but the guy in the video said that not everything is found while doing a pat down. SO if you can't find what ever explosive or gun by doing a full body pat down, why do them? Even with having female TSA agents search women and males searching the men, I would feel very violated and I personally don't want to have to go throught that every single time I flly some where.

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  93. Justin Tyler, Bauer, p.3December 12, 2010 at 11:54 AM

    many people may not like having to get pat down because it is uncomfrtable. However, this will definitely reduce terrorist threats and make airports much more secure and safe.

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  94. Dude the threats are coming from FOREIGN airports new TSA guidelines don't do anything to improve this issue. The TSA keeps on touting that it is necessary to prevent another underwear bomber, the underwear bomber boarded a plane from a FOREIGN airport. I think people should just go through the x-ray machine, no big deal honestly.

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  95. The pat downs are dumb. Especially on upstanding American citizens. Just run a background check on every bodies name in some supercomputer database thing that shows all law infractions from a parking violation to assaulting a law enforcement officer. Chances are those with minor or no infractions wont have explode-able junk or boobs a TSA agent needs to feel up. If their name comes up and they have serious infractions with the law, feel them up. If they carry on their head a turban, check them more thoroughly. If they have broken the law and are Arabian, feel them up, check them, and keep me safe.

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  96. I have mixed feelings about it. I would like to hear both sides arguments, what safe guards have been put in place to prevent abuse for theses pat downs and stuff.
    There is a lot of info i suspect is missing.
    Caleb Newman

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  97. i think that the pat downs dont help very much they know they are going to be patted down and so they will hide what ever is trying to be hidden accordingly.
    i just dont think it helps much

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  98. I think they should just use the X-ray scanner that they have now. Its easier than having to personally pat every person down. I wouldnt want somebody feeling all up on me every time i wanted to get on a plane. It would aslo be much faster, and more able to find hidden things on a person

    Anthony Garcia
    sloan
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  99. This is what happens when terroist decide to attack us. Although these searches are uncomfortable they seem nessecary with all the terrotism. People are getting smarter and will try anything to succeed. Hopefully this does prevent attacks.

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  100. MY opinion on this is you shouldnt have to be scaned since you already have to walk through a detector and i wouldnt want people to be lookin through my clothes i would feel uncomfortable

    Aniscia Silva
    Sloan
    Per 5

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  101. WOW!This pat down seems to be very uncomfortable. Honestly I wouln't like to be checked like that! well but i guess if it's for the safety rules to have a nice and safe flight, then it must be ok. But still there must be another way because seriously people wouln't want to feel molested. O.o

    Karen VIllasenor
    Mr.Bauer
    Per:2

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  102. WOW! this pat down is ridiculous. Honestly, I wouldn't like to be checked/touched by a stranger like that! That is just odd and weird. I understand it's for the safety rules to have a secure, nice, and safe flight. But still, there must be another way.

    Karen Villasenor
    Mr.Bauer
    Per:2

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  103. okay yea the pat down may be uncomfortable for a few seconds, but your being safer and putting yourself in a better situation. people hide things in some pretty crazy places, so one little pat down wont kill ya...
    ~~brooke fletcher:)
    mr. bauer
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  104. Alrighty...the dude said it himself,"these patdowns will not be able to find everything 100 percent accurately"...then why the heck are they finding this necessary? Im big on traveling myself and i think these are a little too "touchy-feely"...especially if they aren't DEFINETELY going to fix the terrorist problem. Besides, the terrorists are going to see this crap on t.v and most likely will be smart enough to put powder explosives in their pants like the other dude and not get caught..

    Danielle Barros
    Sloan p.4

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  105. I'm glad that the government is concerned about our safety and that they had an extra security pat- down. I also do think that it is a little to much. That is violating people privacy and rights and people just feel uncomfortable about that.

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  106. Michael Freeman Per 5 SloanDecember 13, 2010 at 9:48 PM

    I believe that is is fine. I also don't care that much if some one is going to be looking under my clothing. But, I do have a problem with some things. I don't like to hear story's about people laughing at the people they scan, that makes me think this is a big ass joke. I don't like that you can be arrested for refusing to take a scan once you are there. It is not constitutional for them to do that if you have done nothing wrong.

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  107. Rebecca miles
    bauer
    Ap. P.4
    I think the pat downs are a bit excessive, but thats what we get for wanting to fly, and fly safe. Don't blame the airlines, or.government. Blame the people who want to blow up planes.

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  108. Vicente Chavez
    Sloan per 5th
    I think that it would be ok to be searched that way because then again everyone does need to have their own privacy but if it is for everones safety i do not see anything wrong because i wud rather be searched the new way than not be searched and die.

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  109. I feel that most security officers would be respectful but i also think that there will be others that will go too far. My body is a private thing and i think that that pat down is past over the line. i'd rather go through the x-ray machine.
    This makes me not want to fly and travel.

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  110. karina ramos mr sloan period 1

    From my point of view i really dont see this as a big thing it is just to keep us all safe.
    i understand how some people could see this as intrusive unessasary and too much.but i would rather be safe than not.

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  111. enrique salazar sloanper5December 15, 2010 at 4:13 PM

    I believe in security but airlines have gone too far with it. my mom works for the state and has to fly a lot for buisness and she said she was suprised about the security now.

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  112. I have a friend who works as air port security. He constantly tells us how people get upset at him for the pat downs they now have to perform. In a way, I don't entirely blame air port security for having strict searches. People have proven to hide harmful things in places you would never think of. The x-ray body search is a good idea, however maybe the pat downs can be a little less touchy.

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  113. No security "patdowns" are going to hold me back from getting back home to california i have poeple to see. Without flying society would be alot different. Plus whats wrong with a little patdown, I'm not ashamed of the gifts gods given me.
    Sloan Per 2 Jordan Elzie

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  114. I love pat-downs its up there with sleeping for me! :D Nah but really why can't we just profile like Israel who cares if it hurts a minority group its for the welfare of our nation as a whole. And that's what democracy is all about right? Majority rules. Word.

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  115. I think pat downs are better because it really doesn't invade a person privacy as much but people will always sneak a way to get weapons in a airplane

    Mr.bauer
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